Richard Dawkins: Need I Say More?


It is a fact of my own life that scientists will always offer the most persuasive arguments to me for logic and reason.  But it is also true that they offer the most compelling arguments for the beauty of our world.  Listening to Dawkins speak about “this rock, near a mediocre star on the edge of a typical galaxy” and how despite the ordinary nature of the conditions in this particular pocket of the universe, something as extraordinary as our planet and the life on it managed to occur fills me with a sense of awe.  To accept that the beauty we see in our short, insignificant lives can be attributed to chance, the entropic reality of the universe is a gift.  To attribute to anything else cheapens it.  It is a beautiful world without spirituality.  It is more beautiful to me because of that.

Science is practical magic.

As such, I enjoy that my camera phone makes all the pictures of the video screen look like promotional posters or cartoons.

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Protest


When I was thinking about what the rally would be like, I expected there to be a lot hostility around, both within the rally (a lot of arrogant atheists saying things about how stupid Christians are and feeling really superior about it) and from religious protestors.  Much to my amazement, there has been very little hostility of any kind.

The rally itself has had a very positive feel overall.  The messages of most of the speakers have been inspiring and while they exclude those who have religion as a decision making force in their lives, the messages have been inclusive to all types of atheism/agnostitism and the general idea has been to band together to be a force of change and good in the world.  The message has not been “we’re better than everyone else” (no matter how many of us might think that, har har).

In addition, the protestors have been really peaceful.

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For every one protestor with a generic “Jesus Loves You” sign, there are 10 secularists crowded around them engaging in intelligent conversation.  There’s not a lot of yelling or “you’re going to hell” or “you’re all fools” or any of that.  I am impressed.

Not to say that punches are being pulled.  People are saying lots of true things to a lot of supportive people.  The speakers are making the point that critical thinking and reason should be the norm and that religion hinders the progress of that in children and adults.

It’s a beautiful thing.

Greta Christina is Amazing


True kudos to the organizers of the Reason Rally for a really fabulous lineup, specifically the great representation of women here (not just speakers but discussion of misogyny and all of the important women’s issues happening now…as they have been for an incredibly long time).  Greta Christina (freethoughtblogs.com/gretachristina) is speaking now and is the first speaker to really gety us riled up talking about the important question, “why are atheists angry?”  And it’s because, “maybe we have legitimate things to be angry about.”  Yep.

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Perhaps We Should Update Dictionary.com


As I said, we’re all wearing our fancy tshirts (check out the link on the right of this page to get one of your VERY OWN!  You don’t want to be the only one without a shirt do you…DO YOU???) which say “Atheist, Polyamorous, Skeptics” on the front.

Between sets, a gentleman approached us to get a good look at the shirts.  I noticed him looking and said in a welcoming way, “Hi!  I noticed you checking out our tshirts!”

“Yeah, I was wondering.  I assumed at first that you had a lascivious for that word ‘polyamorous’, but you just mean you love everybody, right?”

Wes: No, we mean the lascivious thing.

Me: Yeah, polyamory like dating multiple people.

Then he walked away after seemingly thinking we were offended or something.  We really weren’t!  If you see us, we really like talking about all the things mentioned on our shirts…also lots of other stuff.  We’re quite pleasant 🙂

Also, Space Goldfish have made their first appearance.

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Hello From the Reason Rally!


Hello!

Ok, I’ll write more than that, if you insist.  While I have battery on my telephonic device, I’ll be blogging about the things going on at this already impressive event.

1.  Shaun, Ginny, Wes, and I got into line for the tents that house the tables for the various secular organizations (secular swag, ftw!).  The line was long and seemingly unmoving.  For whatever reason, everyone thought Ginny knew what was going on and asked her what we were waiting for (I assume it’s the glasses and knowing expression).  I found myself completely amazed by the fact that everyone asked first what we were waiting for before getting into line…no herd following.  To me, this is the biggest difference between a free thinker and, well, everybody else.

2. People’s signs say things like “I believe in life before death”, a picture of American coins with “In Science We Trust”, and general sentiments expressing that we’re happy and moral without a god.  It’s totes controversial apparently.

3.  I am impressed with the general sentiment of sex positivity here and, so far, focuses on women’s autonomy.

4.  The sound quality here is frakkin’ incredible.  Shut up.  I’m imprssed by that crap, ok?

5.  Wes, Shaun, Ginny and I are all wearing matching tshirts for Polyskeptic.com because we’re AWESOME and…ADORABLE…OR SOMETHING.

More to come!

Philadelphia in Spring: reflections of youth and self


[Edit: this is a post composed by Gina, but I (Shaun) will be adding commentary in Green]

 

When I decided that I would take the week off to celebrate my birthday, I was impressed when several people (namely Shaun, Ginny and my best friend Peter) decided to take a day off during the week to spend with me.  I was quite glad because not only did I get to spend entire days with the people I adore, but I wasn’t lonely while Wes worked his long hours.  Peter took Monday off to take me guitar shopping.  Ginny and I spent the day together on Wednesday being ridiculously girly by getting pedicures and then having fru fru cocktails at a very trendy bar/restaurant in Center City.  I spent Thursday with Shaun, having no idea what we would be doing.  Shaun can be secretive sometimes…or perhaps it’s just him not knowing what he wants to do…whatever it is, I was looking forward to whatever he had in store.

I basically winged it.  OK, that’s not completely true.  I did research to see what was available to do that day, wrote down possibilities, and moved towards a specific direction.  I’m more spontaneous than itinerary-creating.

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So, we woke up and he cooked breakfast while I sat on the little love seat in their kitchen plucking away on his neglected guitar.  I make it a point to tune it up and play it a bit every time I’m there.  Guitars, and most instruments, need to be nurtured and played with as they age or they wither and die.  It’s true!  Playing them regularly keeps them youthful and spry and age translates into wisdom and beauty instead of bitterness and discord.

Get it?  Guitars are like people.  I’m so fucking poetic!

It’s true.  Her poesy is wikkid sick!

After eating a lovely meal, we set out and decided that Thursday was a day for walking.  It would ultimately be a warm 78 degrees and though it was overcast in the early hours of the morning, the sun was out in uninterrupted full force for the whole afternoon.  We wandered over to the art museum area, a place I haven’t walked around in years.  I have been to the art museum itself recently, but I haven’t partaken of the beauty of Fairmount Park in quite a while.  I used to go there a lot with an ex boyfriend of mine, an ex that I thought I was going to marry, an ex with whom things ended quite poorly.

It’s one of my favorite parts of the city to explore.  I have discovered old ruins, abandoned warehouses, and great concrete structures jutting into the Schuylkill (Philly native win; I didn’t need to look up how to spell that!) river accessible via the bike path near Manyunk.  We didn’t venture that far today, not having bikes with us.

Shaun and I both grew up in Philadelphia.  Neither of us grew up with a lot of money.  We went to school in approximately the same area around the same time.  While the circumstances of our upbringing were certainly different, there were various things that were parallel.  It was exciting to go around parts of town that had significance to both of us, to share points of view on the same places, to look at things again with older eyes, eyes that have changed perspectives multiple times since leaving many of these things behind years earlier.

Can you tell that I was getting a little sentimental?

We wandered along the river where both of us were getting sunburned (and didn’t know to the extent until that evening).  After hours of that, we decided that it was time for snacks and beer (or in my case wine.  It’s almost always wine. Something red and cheap.  Poifect!)  Being on the Parkway at the time, we decided that we should try out a pub across the street from Shaun’s old school, Friends Select.

Shaun and I have an ongoing joke about Friends Select.  I went to J.R. Masterman (a few blocks north of FS) and when I was in highschool many of my friends were obsessed with several people who went to FS.  To them, everyone at FS was deep and interesting (and totes hot) and it was my friends’ missions to appear cool enough to impress them.  It is unlikely that I ever actually saw Shaun there as he is 4 years older and shouldn’t be paying attention to 15 year olds anyway (RIGHT, SHAUN? Right.  I stopped that years ago.  At least 15 years ago. Probably longer.  I’m almost 35….)…although, when I was that age, everyone thought I was 25, so you never know.  I would pass FS regularly on my walk down to the El to get home and there would always be students loitering outside of the Subway sandwich place across the street from FS.  I used to sit on the ground and play Nirvana songs with this guy Leslie (we’d harmonize on “Rape Me”…classy!).

This same spot, as well as the nearby “triangle park,” is where I would play hacky sack.  No, really! 

So the joke is that I couldn’t stand FS kids.  They seemed so out of touch with everything but went on like they had some kind of unique perspective.  I recall one kid in particular was telling some people the story of how he spent the night wandering the streets with a homeless man and now he totally gets what it’s like to be homeless…as he replaced the batteries in his Walkman and ate a snack.  I was amazed that anyone took this guy seriously, but he had women eating out of his hands.  “Wow!  What a sacrifice you made that night!  you really understand things now, man.”  This how most of them came across to me.  Shaun insists there were many who weren’t like that.  I believe him, but, you know, I was 16 and bored to tears by 16 year olds.

So we arrived at the pub (although not Mace’s Crossong, the pub referred to above) and Shaun gets a gleam in his eye and says, “Oh man, we should go into Friends Select!  It would absolutely amuse me to bring you there.”  I figured it would be funny and it was true that I never actually had the opportunity to go in there before, so in we went.  Shaun thought about pretending to be prospective parents, but instead he introduced himself as a former student and the people in the office figured out who was still teaching there that Shaun may have known.  We got visitor badges and started wandering the halls.

It was a very nice place, with multiple halls winding around.  I was certainly amused being in Shaun’s old stomping grounds (and at how much nicer the place was than Masterman.  Oh, public schools).  We walked through the elementary school and then the middle school…and then found ourselves in the highschool.  Suddenly I was right back at 18.  There was a row of lockers and backpacks strewn in front of them and kids hanging around waiting to go home.  I saw a sign that said “Class of 2012” and I felt completely ancient.  So two very difficult sets of emotions came at me: memories of being 14 – 18 and miserable (followed by being relatively miserable in my 20’s too), and the realization that I had graduated highschool 13 years ago.  And that combined with all the memories of the ex that I used to walk around in Fairmount Park with.

Shaun ended up talking to one of his favorite math teachers (Ralph Reinwald, if anyone cares) who happened to be there.  I peeked into the chemistry lab (which was impressive) and steadily became overwhelmed by all of it.  Shaun’s teacher reminded me a lot of a teacher I had back then who had died on TWA Flight 800.  This teacher was also incredibly brilliant and I hadn’t remembered any of my teachers being that learned and smart.  They likely were and we just never talked about such things, but it was an amazing thing to see.

It was great seeing Ralph and talking for about 15 minutes.  I had considered asking him if he wanted to join us for dinner/drinks, since we were going, but it was Gina’s day, so I didn’t.  I might have to do that some other time.

We went to leave, but another teacher (administrator, actually.  Stuart Land, who is the director of alumni/ae programs) wanted to say hi. While we waited, I went into the auditorium (which was exceptional) and was completely overcome by emotion.  I discovered theater for myself in highschool and spent a great deal of time in the auditorium at Masterman and there was something about being in a highschool auditorium that brought everything back.  I fought back tears and floated off in my mind while Shaun caught up with the teacher.

We left finally and I fell apart in the courtyard in front of the school.  It was strange and I didn’t really understand it entirely at the time…but I was happy that Shaun was there because…well, because I want him to know these things about me.

How often we forget, or at least under appreciate, how fragile and emotional we can be when it comes to memory and youth.  I am so proud of the person Gina is today and I am honored to see that she is capable of showing vulnerability with me, for it shows great beauty, strength, and trust in her and our relationship.  I’m a lucky person to have her in my life.

When we meet people at various points in our lives, they don’t know anything about us right away.  There are the things that we can tell others over time, things we are conscious enough of that we feel that we can articulate them.  But there are so many things that we might not think to tell, or we might not realize are significant.  I most likely have talked about what highschool was like, how I felt about myself back then, what my friends were like, all of that, to him before, but perhaps even I had forgotten what it was really like to be in my own head then.  While I am a big fan of paying attention to initial emotions, figuring them out and choosing proper courses of action for dealing with them healthily, I also think it important to let these waves of memory and emotion be expressed to those close to me.  The more you show the people you love, the more they can learn to understand you and help you as relationships progressed.  Shaun wrote about exactly this today with some amazing literary skill and intellectual brilliance.

We quickly found a bar (or two) to while away the daylight hours and as I got drunker and more dehydrated (and a little unstable from all the memories of the day), I talked a lot, but my thoughts kept going back to how different life is now than it was then and that while I felt old for a moment, I wouldn’t want to go back for anything.  I feel younger now than I did then having shed a few pieces of baggage.  I would prefer to feel wise at 31 than wait until I’m 61 to figure anything out.  My life as it is now makes me incredibly happy.  Happiness was something that I thought was not something I would ever truly have.  When I think back to what I expected when I was 18, this is not what I envisioned and actual happiness wasn’t really part of it.  I always thought that I would be 75 and finally over everything and then, and only then, when I was old and theoretically wiser, I would be that old laughing lady.

Ah, wait until what your 75-year-old self says about the 31-year-old self! Hows that for humility! I would love to know what I will understand at that age (if I make it that far, of course), but know I cannot know now.  Stupid time-space continuum!

So, now I just get more decades of being an old laughing lady.  What an unexpected surprise!

I hope that I can go along for the ride, my old, wise lady.

The Reason Rally is TOMORROW!


Everyone remember:

The 2012 Reason Rally is taking place on Saturday, March 24, 2012 from 10:00 AM until dusk. More speakers and entertainers were recently added to the roster. The additional celebrities are Adam Savage, Tim Minchin, Eddie Izzard, Paul Provenza and Shelley Segal. See: www.ReasonRally.org for more information about this free and open to the public event.

(from Margaret Downey at the Freethought Society)

All of us here at PolySkeptic will be there (I will even be wearing the shirt, which may or may not be visible depending on weather) and we will be with friends.  I am looking forward to seeing many fellow bloggers, people I don’t get to see because they live far away, and even people that live in the area but I don’t see often enough.

It should be a great time, rain or shine!

Also, we may attend the Atheist Nexus after party.  here are the deets (you know, short for details…except having to explain that makes it not so short…whatevs…):

After the Rally, hop on the subway (Red Line) and head to the Bethesda North Marriott Hotel & Conference Center. Atheist Nexus is hosting a FREE party (8:30 PM until Midnight) that will feature the music of Shelley Segal, and a debaptism ceremony for the living and the dead (Mitt Romney’s freethinking father perhaps?). Also, more mystery guest speakers. Bwahaha.

See you there!

Where polyamory is sometimes about you


It is often true that people in our lives are able to perceive aspects of who we are which we do not or cannot know.  Many of the processes which influence our behavior are unconscious to us, and through our facial expressions, body language, and even tone of voice people can pick up on patterns of our behavior and mood of which we are wholly or mostly ignorant.   This is how many of our close family, friends, or partners are able to predict, better than we can ourselves, what we are likely to do next under certain circumstances.

When we enter into relationships, part of the relationship is getting to know our partner(s).  And while it is true that we will never know them completely, it is true that if the relationship is base upon honesty, openness, and a meaningful and long-lasting intimacy develops, you will get to know your partner(s) fairly well and will learn to anticipate their needs, wants, etc.

But if you care enough to interact and learn about yourself, the other people we are involved with will have things to teach us which we will not find elsewhere.  Because even a highly observant, self-reflective, and introspective person will miss more about themselves than they knew existed.  There are other perspectives than our own conscious awareness, and those perspectives give angles to what we are which are not available to us without mirrors.

And while other people are not always the best mirrors, sometimes what they perceive about us is extremely valuable if we want to understand more about ourselves and how we interact with the world.

Seeing ourselves from the point of view of others is, therefore, invaluable.

For one, certain aspects of our personality only become relevant through interaction with other personalities.  And the more types of personalities we interact with, the more we will have experience with those behaviors, and thus to aspects of ourselves which would otherwise remain hidden.

Secondly, those other people will be able to observe things about us which we may not see even when they do surface.  They will likely have access to information that, due to biases, lack of a mirror, etc, we simply cannot see.  And by listening to what other people may say about us, even if they will sometimes be very wrong, we can get clues to aspects of ourselves about which we would otherwise remain ignorant.

The importance of relationships

The above is why it is important to have relationships with many people.  It does not mean these relationships need to all be sexual, romantic, or even always friendly (our enemies have many valuable things to teach us as well!), but they need to be transparent and honest, at least to some degree.

That is, simply having interactions with people is not always enough.  We need to say what we think, openly feel what we feel, and express our actual desires (when appropriate, of course).  If we keep communicating and being genuine and authentic people, those around us will give us opportunities to learn important things about ourselves, even when the conversation is not about us directly.

We need to be paying attention to how people react to us, how they initiate (or don’t initiate) interaction, or even to what type of language they use in response to something we say or do.  If and when the time is right, we may choose to interact with people about what they see in us, what we see in them, and both may gain perspective on who we they are.

Of course, you may not like or believe what you hear in all cases, but don’t simply reject what is said.  They may see something about ourselves that we don’t like but also may be true.  They may also see something about ourselves which we like but don’t believe, and it also may be true!  No matter how much we like what we hear, how much we believe it, or how true it is, something will be learned from such interactions.

They may be biased about us as well, after all.  And sometimes their biases draw them to us despite our imperfections, even if we should know that such a bias will eventually wear off and they will start noticing those imperfections, becoming a clearer mirror for our self-awareness.  So long as we keep being real, these types of relationships will give us more perspective, in the future, about how to improve ourselves for your sake, their sake…for everyone’s sake, perhaps.

And we can become better people, in better relationships, who can be better partners and friends to more people.

 

Polyamory as parallel processing

We are complex beings.  Our romantic, sexual, and day-to-day living wants and needs are complicated, diverse, and sometimes conflicted.  Figuring out how best to live, to love, and to lust is a life-long learning process.  The more relationships we have in our lives, the more we know about how to satisfy our desires and needs (while simultaneously learning ow to satisfy the needs of many types of other people, hopefully).

And while learning these lessons serially can give us plenty of information and perspective, there is no comparing serial to parallel processing.  Being able to see ourselves reflected in many multiple relationships simultaneously is a crash course not only in how to maintain relationships, but also in who we are as people, especially as we evolve socially, romantically, and sexually throughout stages in our lives.

If we care to be fully authentic and self-aware individuals, we need to start by being honest, first with ourselves and then the people close to us.  And then we need to listen to them, not only about themselves and their needs but how we tend to respond to such things, how they see our strengths and weaknesses, and what concerns they have about us.

Through such methods we can reach levels of self-knowledge unavailable to most.  It is a difficult and often emotionally destabilizing climb, one which takes courage and a willingness to look into the dark recesses of the soul (metaphorically speaking, of course), but it is worth it.  It is worth it even if we will never know all of ourselves.  In the same way that we can never fully know another person, we can never completely know ourselves.  But the process of trying reveals possibilities for happiness and satisfaction previously unavailable for our consideration.

Plus, it makes you look wise and shit.  Chicks (and dudes) of quality dig that.